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Group Buying Sites: Are they worth the bargain ?

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Group buying has taken the Indian Internet Industry by storm. A lot of websites are coming up which offer group discounts on things to do in a city like restaurants, spa’s, holidays, movies and products..

Listing out the industry players

Deal a Day Shoppers

Unique visitors Facebook Twitter
Snapdeal 290000 59762 280
Mydala 48000 32113 8443
Dealsandyou 32000 28754 377
Taggle 18000 121152 54
Grabbon 10000 3200 309
Koovs 25000 6573 924
Dealivore 20000 40506 54
thepotluck NA 294 51
Mobstreet.in NA 1622 83

*Data source: Google ad planner, Facebook, Twitter as of 14th August 2010. Comscore did not have all the websites.

Ever since Groupon got valuated at $1.2 billion.. every one in India wants to create the next big Indian Groupon. This rush is quite similar to Social Networking sites rush that India experienced in 2006-07 when Orkut got bought by Google everyone thought they will create the next big Indian Orkut.

One thing for sure is that the group buying space would not see similar outcome as it relies on local presence and network. So the faster you build numbers the faster you get market share. The success of the group buying sites solely will depend on the initial amount of promotion and the type of sourcing.

Right now Snapdeal has some amazing traffic which no other portal is able to match and surprisingly Taggle has the largest number of Facebook fans but the same hasnt translated into traffic for the website.

I have a lot of questions on this like where is the money in the model?  How much can you scale up in India? I think it will become like the travel industry where still after years the companies in the space have not even reached the break even point.

Where is the money in group buying model?

Right now I seriously doubt the profitability of these ventures. If we go by naked stats.. on an average, a deal sells 40 coupons in a period of 2-3 days. The margin of the company is Rs. 100 max. Therefore a maximum of Rs. 4000 per deal for 3 days. So that is Rs. 40k revenue for a month. So thats not even close to the salary of a manager in a MNC. Now if I take an average of 10 top cities that would be 4 lacs a month from 10 deals from 10 cities.

The overheads  for offices in those cities would be much more than 4 lacs. Then not to forget the staff salaries, Internal deal promotion (expenses for email and sms because an average mail cost 5 paise and per sms 2 paise) and also external promotion of the website.

Unless the ticket size of Rs.100 increases to Rs. 500 or the sales achieve 1000-2000 deals, the venture cannot break even in this decade.

Scaling up in India?

40-50 % of the internet audience belongs to top 10 cities so after reaching these cities where does the volume come from.

Ecommerce is still nascent and not every user has a credit card/debit card or a netbanking account. So the number of people who could buy funnels down to a very minuscle number. The reports given by IAMAI or Juxtconsult paint a rosy picture but the real facts seem to be different.

If we consider that I have 100 members so out of that atleast two will buy that deal but then if I need 2 more deals to be sold I got to have another 100 members so to sell 2 coupons I spend atleast Rs. 10-20 per member. So for earning Rs. 200 from these two people I have to spend Rs. 2000 to get the 100 members and then after buying a restaurant/spa deal the same person who has a credit card would not go for another the next time it comes for atleast a month or so.

Another problem that they can face is User burnout. i.e. After constant email updates about deals that are not interesting the user may just turn off and would not even check the emails.

The only good out come I see is that people are getting conditioned to shop online and the savings that these sites bargain for the user.  I believe the day when everyone in India relies on the internet like the Americans or Europeans, it is then when the change will happen but in Indian context this is really far away. Now as usual that each veteran from the industry will say is “everything will consolidate into one or two top players in the market and the rest will have to shut shop or merge”.

I believe that in the near future the big thing is the platform which has the biggest reach i.e. “Mobile”. The potential for ideas on this platform has the scalability has well the reach. So someone somewhere must be working to get thing rolling.  Location based group buying on mobile applications looks to have awesome potential. NGpay, Obopay, Atom etc can actually achieve this. Just as technology in Mobile phones evolve GPS will be as obvious as Bluetooth in the coming 3-4 years.

I am going to dissect this space a lot more in my posts ahead but if you have some other view or something I missed please feel free to share in comments.

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Written by rochit

August 14th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

6 Responses to 'Group Buying Sites: Are they worth the bargain ?'

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  1. To add on this due to several group buying sites launched in past few months and number grows to 11 which creates confusion for the normal customer for finding one deal they have to roam several group buying websites simultaneously.

    To improve this http://30sunday.com is launching on 1st Sep 2010 which will aggregate deals from all 11 group buying websites of India having a reach of 22 cities and strength of more than 75 deals at a single time.

    It would be India’s first exclusive group buying tracker portal

    Rohit

    31 Aug 10 at 4:30 am

  2. I agree with your notion that location based group buying on mobile applications have good potential but I also do not believe that the sustainability of such companies are at risk. Its human nature that we are always skeptical about the new and unknown stuffs.But I guess its here to stay. Internet is penetrating deep into Indian masses. This is just the beginning and people will fall upon internet for any and every thing they require in the near future.I would like to highlight some of the facts in this case like:
    -India has 81 million internet users
    -Indian netizens are the India is now world’s third biggest online shoppers
    -The government has planned to expand broadband coverage to connect every Gram Panchayat by 2012.
    -More than one million developers and entrepreneurs from 180 countries use Facebook to spread their business and India is one of them.
    So I believe its going to be a huge market but obviously only the ones with best deals and customer service would stay. There is one more new entrant in this field – CityOffers. Though the site is not yet ready but they have already started with major contests in facebook for their Ahmedabad, Kolkata and Mumbai page with giveaways such as mobile phones, CityOffers coupons and movie tickets!

    Indian blogger

    10 Nov 10 at 10:36 am

  3. The new daily deals site in India, CityOffers.in has started with this unique feature called Prepay Wallet. To buy deals from the site instead of filling in your credit card, debit card details every time ,one can add money one time in their Prepay Wallet and then he/she can use that money till he/she is out of it. One can think of it like a prepaid mobile card.So if you put in Rs 1000 today you can use it till you buy the coupons worth Rs 1000

    Rohan

    9 Dec 10 at 4:04 pm

  4. But this feature would not work unless you offer the best deals in town. Why would users block Rs. 1000/2000 in a prepaid card if they dont know what will be the actual value derived out of it. users dont know if the deals that you are going to get next is the best one or would they need it right.

    rochit

    9 Dec 10 at 4:15 pm

  5. Wanted to share a nice deals aggregator service @ http://getalldealz.com. You will get all deal provider sites all together at this website.
    Browse deals, discounts of your interests & compare among others at single place :)

    Ashok

    30 Mar 11 at 12:11 pm

  6. Group-buying sites are really worth full. But be careful when ever buying the deals through online transaction.
    Above list is not enough, many more sites are there in India, which offers daily deals with best discounts.

    Daitya

    20 Jul 11 at 5:19 pm

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